The Welsh Government defended itself when asked how many quangos
- which it calls Welsh Government Sponsored Bodies - it had set up.
A quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisation - or quango
- is a public body not directly controlled by government.
While some progress has been made and we welcome the winding up of bodies like the Regional Development Agencies and Sustainable Development Commission, the savings from a number of the quangos
it has abolished will be negligible.
But let's be clear, when it comes to shrinking and streamlining the quango
state there's plenty more to come.
The Government Offices for the Regions, John Prescott's unelected regional quangos
, have now been exposed for the most extravagant array of wasteful spending.
Most Governments come into office promising to crack down on the quango
state - that argument was one rationale for devolution, of course.
But Mr Byrne said: "Labour had a plan for steadily saving half a billion by carefully closing 25 per cent of quangos
over the next few years.
Despite speculation, the Carbon Trust and the Energy Saving Trust were not on yesterday's list, but they are not-for-profit companies rather than quangos
There is also concern that some of these quangos
operate on stupid-ideas and produce very little value, and indeed are not fit for purpose.
The Assembly Government offer is a bid to resolve the pay jumble that followed Rhodri Morgan's bonfire of the quangos
which brought independent bodies like the Welsh Development Agency under Assembly control.
This is rich coming from a party that removed powers wholesale from democratically elected local councils and gave them to unelected (and very expensive) Quangos
WE were promised a bonfire of the quangos
by the Scottish Executive.